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Simon's avatar

Thanks for the piece. It made me think. And I concluded that I come at things quite differently. Arbitary, unaccountable imprisonment is illiberal, which I'm sure all liberals would agree upon, but imprisonment within a structured, accountable, rules based system is not, because the decision to commit a crime and suffer the known consequences of imprisonment is a choice of free agency. It is extremley easy not to commit a crime worthy of prison.

Therefore no infringement of their free agency has taken place, when they have freely chosen to relinquish it.

My liberal concerns about prison are of effectiveness - is it a deterrent? Does it reduce reoffending? Does it keep the public safe from certain people? And on those questions, I share your concern about wellbeing because I value rehabilitation rather than punishment as my guiding principle. And prison is probably not the best environment for rehabilitation.

Charles Amos's avatar

Prison is for the purpose of retribution and restitution. We are all born to equal status but it can be forfeited. Ideally, prison would be a lot harder, and, indeed, required forced labour. And I'm with Locke and Kant - big time liberals - in favouring the death penalty too.

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